Ed Stein: Ask Ed: Part One

Theodore for Komorov

Q: Should the Ducks try to keep their six young stud defensemen together (Fowler, Vatanen, Lindholm, Manson, Theodore, and Montour)?

A: Try, sure; but the biggest mitigating factor isn't one of the names on your list. If Kevin Bieksa waives his no movement clause for the draft, it will be very difficult to keep all six. If he doesn't waive, it will be impossible. As much as any Ducks fan may hate the idea of losing one of those guys, reality is staring down the gun barrel.


There's another "young stud defensemen" that wasn't listed, and he may be the best of the kids. Jacob Larsson.

My assumption is if Bieksa were to refuse to waive his NMC, he would be bought out. I can't see the Ducks "wasting" one of their protection picks on him. Theodore, Montour, and Larsson are draft exempt . Once you trade either Vats or Fowler (imo the only two significant D that might be moved, and will give us the best return), you can now protect Manson.

Going forward it would be possible to have Fowler/Vats, Lindholm, Manson, Montour, Theodore, Larsson as your top 6.

Q: Should the Ducks try to keep their six young stud defensemen together (Fowler, Vatanen, Lindholm, Manson, Theodore, and Montour)?

A: Try, sure; but the biggest mitigating factor isn't one of the names on your list. If Kevin Bieksa waives his no movement clause for the draft, it will be very difficult to keep all six. If he doesn't waive, it will be impossible. As much as any Ducks fan may hate the idea of losing one of those guys, reality is staring down the gun barrel.


There's another "young stud defensemen" that wasn't listed, and he may be the best of the kids. Jacob Larsson.

My assumption is if Bieksa were to refuse to waive his NMC, he would be bought out. I can't see the Ducks "wasting" one of their protection picks on him. Theodore, Montour, and Larsson are draft exempt . Once you trade either Vats or Fowler (imo the only two significant D that might be moved, and will give us the best return), you can now protect Manson.

Going forward it would be possible to have Fowler/Vats, Lindholm, Manson, Montour, Theodore, Larsson as your top 6.
- quackup

Its why I think Bieksa waives his NMC.
Someone has to go for forward help. Maybe its Larsson and then your six stay.

Theodore for Komorov


- Holy_Makinaw99

Belay that order, Mr. Data.

Its why I think Bieksa waives his NMC.
Someone has to go for forward help. Maybe its Larsson and then your six stay.
- Ed Stein

No chance on Larsson going anywhere. The one I see moving, if any, is Theodore. There is still buzz around the league about him but I think Montour has passed him on the depth chart. Hell, Larsson was sooo good at the beginning of the season Carlyle lobbied to keep him on the team. That's Randy "I hate rookies" Carlyle!

No chance on Larsson going anywhere. The one I see moving, if any, is Theodore. There is still buzz around the league about him but I think Montour has passed him on the depth chart. Hell, Larsson was sooo good at the beginning of the season Carlyle lobbied to keep him on the team. That's Randy "I hate rookies" Carlyle!
- duxcup07

Concur - ST & vats I believe good starting point for either Col forward - let's make it happen Murray

I have a question.

me me pick me:

Why is Brian Hayward such a worthless waste of human life pos? And why does the quack franchise continue to employ such a simpleton although he makes you all look worse than whay you already are?

Thank you.

I have a question.

me me pick me:

Why is Brian Hayward such a worthless waste of human life pos? And why does the quack franchise continue to employ such a simpleton although he makes you all look worse than whay you already are?

Thank you.
- verwustung

Back at you with Jim Fox???????

Its why I think Bieksa waives his NMC.
Someone has to go for forward help. Maybe its Larsson and then your six stay.
- Ed Stein

You're wrong here Ed. The Ducks can only protect 3D (they're not going the 4/4 route, imo). Even if Bieksa waves, and they trade Larsson as you suggest, they can only protect 3 of Lindholm, Vats, Fowler and Manson. Someone from that list has to be exposed.

Larsson is draft exempt and cost controlled. Ducks would be fools to trade him (same with Theodore and Montour). Now, Vats and one of the kids could be packaged in a deal, but there is zero chance they can keep Vats, Lindholm, Fowler and Manson unless Murray makes a deal with Las Vegas prior to the expansion draft. One of the above 4 has to be exposed otherwise.

You're wrong here Ed. The Ducks can only protect 3D (they're not going the 4/4 route, imo). Even if Bieksa waves, and they trade Larsson as you suggest, they can only protect 3 of Lindholm, Vats, Fowler and Manson. Someone from that list has to be exposed.

Larsson is draft exempt and cost controlled. Ducks would be fools to trade him (same with Theodore and Montour). Now, Vats and one of the kids could be packaged in a deal, but there is zero chance they can keep Vats, Lindholm, Fowler and Manson unless Murray makes a deal with Las Vegas prior to the expansion draft. One of the above 4 has to be exposed otherwise.
- quackup

Its safe to say that in the right deal, almost everyone that doesn't have a NMC or NTC could be moved. Although not likely, it could happen.
To your point, I still think its Manson that goes, however, if there is a deal to be made that keeps these guys together, Murray will do what he can to make it happen.

Interesting stuff here. It looks to me like Eaves was the addition this team needed. I still believe this team is capable of a different dimension of play. Murray unconventionally played the media, but I don't think he liked the offers he was getting, and decided to go a different route.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I've never been a fan of green rookies playing in the playoffs. Montour has 12 GP and Theodore has been caught out of position too many times. Sure both can put up offense, but experience and defensive responsibility isn't something to overlook. If they're going to go Holzer, I don't have an issue with him being the #6 guy. Stoner will be back soon. So that could be an option there. I've always bashed on Stoner because his contract, but the guy gets the job done in front of his own net. I'm not completely ruling out one of the rookie defenders, as I do like the offensive urgency they bring to the table, but I'm a stickler on NHL experience.

Looking at the player depth, estimated TOI allocation and the question mark that still remains for Anaheim's #6 defenseman; I think things stay as is. Trading a regular D-man at this point would do more harm than good. Murray is asking himself one question, "What'll give my team the absolute best opportunity of winning in the playoffs?" He brought out the credit card and got a guy who's consistently scoring. There's 48 hours left, and Bargain Bob is always on the hunt. Nevertheless, the contingency of success will be determined by how this team plays as a group, and if they can consistently find the back of the net.

Interesting stuff here. It looks to me like Eaves was the addition this team needed. I still believe this team is capable of a different dimension of play. Murray unconventionally played the media, but I don't think he liked the offers he was getting, and decided to go a different route.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I've never been a fan of green rookies playing in the playoffs. Montour has 12 GP and Theodore has been caught out of position too many times. Sure both can put up offense, but experience and defensive responsibility isn't something to overlook. If they're going to go Holzer, I don't have an issue with him being the #6 guy. Stoner will be back soon. So that could be an option there. I've always bashed on Stoner because his contract, but the guy gets the job done in front of his own net. I'm not completely ruling out one of the rookie defenders, as I do like the offensive urgency they bring to the table, but I'm a stickler on NHL experience.

Looking at the player depth, estimated TOI allocation and the question mark that still remains for Anaheim's #6 defenseman; I think things stay as is. Trading a regular D-man at this point would do more harm than good. Murray is asking himself one question, "What'll give my team the absolute best opportunity of winning in the playoffs?" He brought out the credit card and got a guy who's consistently scoring. There's 48 hours left, and Bargain Bob is always on the hunt. Nevertheless, the contingency of success will be determined by how this team plays as a group, and if they can consistently find the back of the net.
- IGotTheMemo

Normally, I'd agree with this post 100%, but something isn't right with this team this year. The Ducks basically have one line and if that line gets shut down, they're probably not going to win in the regular season. In the playoffs, they're definitely not going to win. I think the only chance this team has at a long playoff run is for Gibson to have a Jiggy in 2003 performance. While that's possible it's definitely not probable. I think Carlyle should let the kids play and get playoff experience. The future is in San Diego right now. The Gulls are playing great. Let's get some of these kids some Stanley Cup playoff experience.

Normally, I'd agree with this post 100%, but something isn't right with this team this year. The Ducks basically have one line and if that line gets shut down, they're probably not going to win in the regular season. In the playoffs, they're definitely not going to win. I think the only chance this team has at a long playoff run is for Gibson to have a Jiggy in 2003 performance. While that's possible it's definitely not probable. I think Carlyle should let the kids play and get playoff experience. The future is in San Diego right now. The Gulls are playing great. Let's get some of these kids some Stanley Cup playoff experience.
- duxcup07

Def some issues with this team - 10 no matter who he has been with has sucked all yr and I don't see that changing anytime soon - now unless he can revert to some semblance of a past player this team has a glaring hole scoring - Eaves helps in that regard with some speed and the ability to PK and PP which this team needs help with - Stoner is a type player that can bring some added nastiness but what will his shape be for stretch run - Am still hopeful that BM pulls the trigger with Vats and ST being the impetus for one of the Col forwards or a deal with Tampa -

Back at you with Jim Fox???????
- quackup

Huh? WTF? Foxy is one of the best analysts in the game and not the least bit of a homer and whiner like your boy. You haven't got a clue.

Normally, I'd agree with this post 100%, but something isn't right with this team this year. The Ducks basically have one line and if that line gets shut down, they're probably not going to win in the regular season. In the playoffs, they're definitely not going to win. I think the only chance this team has at a long playoff run is for Gibson to have a Jiggy in 2003 performance. While that's possible it's definitely not probable. I think Carlyle should let the kids play and get playoff experience. The future is in San Diego right now. The Gulls are playing great. Let's get some of these kids some Stanley Cup playoff experience.
- duxcup07

Understandably. When Theodore and Montour were both in the line up the offensive urgency that's been lacking was there. I'm sure management has beat to death the hypotheticals of who brings what. Sami Vatanen's and Corey Perry's shooting percentage has been horrendous. Where is the gamble? Hoping Vatanen and Perry rediscover their scoring touch when push comes to shove, or dealing a defenseman to bring in more scoring and giving Montour and/or Theodore a regular spot on the roster. IMO, at this point in the season, those are the only two viable options. At least management has put themselves in a position of leverage. How they'll use it remains to be seen.

Huh? WTF? Foxy is one of the best analysts in the game and not the least bit of a homer and whiner like your boy. You haven't got a clue.
- verwustung

- quackup

What's in the punch at Staples Center?

Fauxy is the fakest!

Ed will we trade for Drouin ?

Def some issues with this team - 10 no matter who he has been with has sucked all yr and I don't see that changing anytime soon - now unless he can revert to some semblance of a past player this team has a glaring hole scoring - Eaves helps in that regard with some speed and the ability to PK and PP which this team needs help with - Stoner is a type player that can bring some added nastiness but what will his shape be for stretch run - Am still hopeful that BM pulls the trigger with Vats and ST being the impetus for one of the Col forwards or a deal with Tampa -
- dozerD10

By pretty much any standard, Perry has been extremely unlucky this season. All of his numbers are down from what we've become used to, but it doesn't correlate with his dreadful sh%. His pts/g is still at .67 which is normally very good on the NHL, but apparently not for Perry. His career avg is .81 pts/g. For his career, he has averaged right at 3 sh/g, this season that's down to 2.7 sh/g, which still should be considered good for the NHL. However his sh% is less than half of his career avg. He's only scoring on 6.4% of his shots versus 13.1% for his career. That's crazy bad luck. He's not having as terrible of a season as you think. He would be fairly close to his career averages of he wasn't so unlucky this year.